节目与嘉宾
Rise of Asia 10 分钟节目，嘉宾为新加坡前外交官马凯硕（Kishore Mahbubani）；马凯硕本人出镜的访谈段只有 01:01–04:21，其余为旁白串场与旧剪辑，本稿只整理马凯硕原话。英文原标题：America Can't Afford to Ignore China Anymore | Kishore Mahbubani。
核心观点
- 主持人问美中能否双赢，马凯硕答：“Absolutely. I believe that the United States and China can and should both win in the 21st century.”理由是共同挑战太多，首要是气候变化：“climate change cannot be solved unless the two greatest economies, United States and China, cooperate”。 1:03
- 他两次反问：“How much would Apple be worth if Apple could not produce its phones in China? How much would Tesla be worth if it could not produce its cars in China?”并说要现实地看美国经济在多大程度上依赖中国制造的零部件，因为中国建成了“an amazing manufacturing ecosystem. The best ever best one in the world.” 2:16
- 他引述哥伦比亚大学的英国学者 Adam Tooze 近期在苏黎世的讲座：第一次“China shock”是中国大量新劳动力进入全球制造体系；现在将有第二次“China shock”，“the only way for the advanced Western economies to develop is now to copy China because China is ahead in manufacturing.”进而说，过去担心中国偷西方知识产权，“Now, the West he says will have to copy Chinese intellectual property if it's going to succeed and grow in the coming decades.” 3:04
背景与说明
本稿只整理马凯硕本人出镜的 01:01–04:21 访谈段；04:21 后的高铁、比亚迪、关税、脱钩等论述均为旁白 Andrew 的串场评论，不是马凯硕原话；05:46–06:22 插入的马斯克旧访谈剪辑也与马凯硕无关。字幕覆盖说明：本视频字幕共 281 个带时间戳分段，覆盖 0:00–10:17（全长 10:16），全片覆盖。文中观点与时间戳均据字幕原文转述，时间戳为对应原话分段的起始时刻。发布时间说明：发布时间为香港时间 2026-11-08 21:41，由抓取时 YouTube 显示的相对时间（12 小时前）换算，精度为小时级。